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And you dont have to sink a warship to take it out of the fight. Putins Russia isnt anywhere nearly as big and powerful as the old Soviet military and couldnt go toe to toe with the US. Launch control was always in Moscow. The result is a net drop in drivers. You forgot Estonia which is British led! People always seem to vastly underestimate the effectiveness of a medium gun. The Americans have just sent their first shipment of Aid to the Ukraine what was sent was classed as LETHAL Aid. General Sir Nick Carter delivering the annual Royal United Services Institute lecture. LONDON, June 24 (Reuters) - Russia warned Britain on Thursday that it would bomb British naval vessels in the Black Sea if there were any further provocative actions by the British navy off the coast of Russia-annexed Crimea. Actually, its an interesting point. Russia released footage filmed from a Russian SU-24 bomber flying close to the British ship. The ships, which can each carry up to 25 armoured personnel carriers, were deployed three days ago but it remains unclear if they are heading for Ukraine. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? The task group were joined by RAF Typhoon and F-35s jets, plus tankers RFA Tideforce and RFA Tiderace. It was not immediately clear what equipment would be arriving today. So easy to detect and evasion not impossible but also easy for CIWS to lock onto. 25% might just be enough, with the right weapons onboard! Saying your putting your entire navy to sea simultaneously across every theatre you operate in is a bit of a red flag.. though considering the state of the Russian navy if even 25% of the ships leave harbour I will be surprised. No-one will be able to fight back in an all in war today. . We should grant him that and make it a reality. In comments that will alarm Kiev, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said her country needs 'a reliable Russia' to supply Europe with gas. Europe? I'm sure there will be no decision about [Ukraine] without [Ukraine],' he wrote. Also Congress now has the Trump White House documents related to Jan 6. At the same time, it has stepped up social media campaigns portraying Ukraine as aggressors. Agree as a tunnel runs under the channel we have right to defend the tunnel and if at war blockade the channel to defend it. Thu Feb 3 2022 - 19:50. Morning Douglas. I have lost count how many times I have read about explosions in Iran over the past two years or so. Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. With what? Yes we cant come to Ukraines aid in any meaningful way but this should be it now as far as the Baltics are concerned- reinforce the fuck out of them so they know what surrounded really means and, I hate to say this but trump was right the Germans are useless spineless allies and they dont deserve the support they have now, relocate all forces to Poland and the Baltics where it really matters. But the virus restrictions have meant few have been trained and tested to replace them. I think youre forgetting the Enhanced Forward Presence incl Canadians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Romainians, Slovaka, Czechs, Danes, Norgies, Albanians, Slovenes, Italians, Germans, French and may have missed one or two just saying like. That was 4 years ago after the initial push against ISIS was over. Yes, have to agree, Gallipoli wasnt one of our finest ever ventures. Seems a bit left-field but the Swedes seem to be taking things seriously. The White House corrected the off the cuff remark from the long press conference. If allowed to go unchecked, this will only serve to embolden both Putin and Xi, so interesting times ahead for all of us. Will it would be nice not to hear from that stroppy self-important brat anymore, I doubt your proposal will solve either of the threats we face; Russian aggression and climate-climate. Ukraine warns Russia has 'almost completed' build-up of forces near border - CNN. Two weeks ago nearly a dozen warships and combat aircraft from Russias Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets gave a show of force in the waters off the British and Irish coasts General Sir Nick Carter has said. The Russian ships sheltered from bad weather within the Baie de Seine, Northern France, where Severn was joined by allied French navy ships and aircraft. If the US had done this early enough the Russians would have back off. Dont think its just down to initial build costs either, providing a crew for the kit and paying for them over the lifetime of the ship/s probably has a bearing on this issue too. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along with their supporting tugs and supply ships travelling in the English Channel, Celtic Sea and the West Coast of Scotland. Not training troops. Our carriers will only come intoRead more . Germany was starved to death in WW1 by the blockade of the North sea and WW2 bomber command destroyed its industrial might. True , I seem to remember one the OSINT Bunker pod cast guys saying if they start to move Air assets near the Ukraine border than probably the war is on , they have just done that. The phrase, and derivatives of the phrase . Looking to impress on Moscow the need for de-escalation, he and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov decided yesterday 'it would be useful' to meet in person on Friday in Geneva. Its more difficult now given the numbers they have positioned. Its a land grab and a hard lesson to NATO not to expand further east and Im afraid Ukraine who have been pro west since independence will pay the price. I somehow doubt it. Signalling to the Russian regime that we shall not tamely acquiesce should they escalate requires conventional hard power warships and aircraft as well as less conventional capabilities like cyber. We will see who is right in a month or two. But you have to appreciate they are not the be all and end all. LOL Ivan you really are poster boy for Putin . Commander Philip Harper, Severn's commanding officer, said: "In very challenging conditions with rough weather, Severn and several other British and allied ships have spent 20 days ensuring that Russian transiting warships remain under our watchful eyes.". Whilst we (NATO) wont be firing shots, theres a massive amount that can be done with regards to intelligence and weapon supply that, arguably should have been done a month ago. An analogy would be how the small number of US troops placed in both Syria and Afghanistan deterred attackers until they were removed andlook what follows. Last night, Kiev hailed Britain for sending anti-tank weapons and troops as an 'important first step' to help the country defend itself. NSM like Harpoon has a range that means it flies way over the horizon. Several Latvians were arrested when they returned from fighting in the Ukraine they had been on the Russian side! Meanwhile, in the Black Sea, the Kasimov antisubmarine ship 'successfully destroyed' air and sea targets by artillery fire in storm conditions, in a naval exercise. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. The Telegraph values your comments but kindly requests all posts are on topic, constructive and respectful. The waters wont be crowded, NOTAMs would clear potential conflict areas fast. Trump was right about Germany being too dependent upon Russian gas and some EU states not spending enough on defence. Russia is allied with Iran, need I say more. They would be very worried about Wildcat with Sea Venom & Martlet, and Merlin Mk2 with Stingray capability. Combined, these would provide us with a very capable deterrent for home defence from land, sea and air. Protect their own borders through forward defence. French President Emmanuel Macron has offered to send troops to Romania., https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60077776. The military ship activated its AIS tracker on Wednesday at 10am, making it visible on real-time marine traffic tracker. Kongsberg have said that it will also be fitted to NSM. 'We're now at a stage where Russia could at any point launch an attack in Ukraine, and what Secretary Blinken is going to go do is highlight very clearly there is a diplomatic path forward. Russia has brought in new forces to Crimea, which it annexed from Ukraine in 2014. Thomas C. D'Arcy, encountered a formation of seven Chinese and Russian warships in the Bering Sea last month. I stand by my comments and time will tell. See here for a complete list of exchanges and delays. production rates are a worry. The. See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. Yes theyve probably done more to modernise than laggards such as Argentine or Germany, but in conventional terms the European members of NATO alone could militarily contain Russia without Americas help. THey may have a go at making life uncomfortable for the US there as well. Which could be read either way. But T31 isnt designed or intended to be a high end anti submarine Frigate, more a general purpose Frigate for more day to day operations ,anti piracy ect but capable enough to operate as part of a task group. Look what we did to help France in WW1/2. Whats the Latin 50% because decimate is only 1 in 10 (10%). Sorted. You can read more here. A Ministry of Defence Spokesperson told me: As part of a unified response with our allies, the Royal Navy are monitoring the presence of Russian Ships as they transit through the English Channel. They took over from @kon_marine and will pass onto the @MarineNationale to continue the escort. good job that idiot trump doesnt have access to the red button or the west would be rubble. Several missiles now fit the bill, but you still need to get round the issue of targeting information before you send it/them on their way. They keep Russia's options open and therefore keep the defender guessing,' said Keir Giles, an Associate Fellow at Chatham House. Could be a rerun of the 1904 Russian fleet of to the far East didnt go too well for them then but they did attack Traelers of dogger bank. kill chain is very complex to find, track, and then engage a warship at range that doesnt want to be shot at. US is now flying in warlike items to Ukraine. In a meaningful way I mean putting forces on the ground and in the air. If I see him Ill ask. Russia's Baltic Fleet vessels theKorolev, Minsk and Kaliningrad were today sailing south past the UK followed by Northern Fleet warshipsOlenegorsky Gornyak, Pyotr Morgunov, and Georgii Pobedonosets which passed the Great Belt Bridge in Denmark on Monday. More info. Agree entirely with what you say but I feel Trump was the one who emboldened Putin in the first place with his wimpish behaviour and with Biden following and little if any better, then no wonder Putin is considering pushing his luck. Genuine question did Ukraine have 100% complete control of the USSR nuclear weapons that had been stationed in its territory? Tabloid sensationalism Im afraid Tommo. Whereas I have friends and colleagues dotted along the West Coast which is how I can call out your nonsense on that one. NOTAMs will clear seaways fast, whilst the Falklands demonstrated the potency of AsUW back then. If Biden was was standing up to Putin hed use some of that military grunt they have. I have faith in the crews and TTPs, I have limited faith when the top brass dispense with offensive capabilities that the USN and every other major navy endorses. Thats one of the reasons the JSM in particular is getting the BAe RF receiver. Putin has huge domestic discontent for which the Ukraine crisis is a distraction. Too many journalists sit at their desks googling news instead of getting off their backsides. Im afraid Martlet wouldnt scratch the paint on a Kirov, whilst the Wildcat wouldnt get within range to launch kinetics before being eliminated by the Grumble. Nine Royal Navy ships have completed a "concentrated operation" to shadow seven Russian warships, the British Royal Navy said Thursday, citing "unusually high levels of activity" in the English . Still better than a 4.5 gun. Astutes dont need to surface to receive Comms, they are more then capable of receiving them whilst deep. Ukraine didnt invent the weapons so im curious how much of them they could have used and ultimately maintained over time. It is very obvious where they are going, staring you right into your eyes!! Moscow has announced the 'successful' completion of tests on its Kinzhal - or Dagger - hypersonic missiles, which can carry nuclear or conventional weapons with a range of 1,250 miles, in the Arctic, though the weapons had been deployed with Russian forces ahead of the trials. But what might a Russian attack look like and what could it seek to achieve? slow not stealthy the bocks the UK has have quite limited onboard electronics. 'Also, if he just occupies the eastern regions he will never be able to take back the whole of Ukraine because of the inevitable strengthening of Ukrainian forces in the remainder of the country in the aftermath. The US Putting a small number of troops in Ukraine is a line in the sand a powerful symbol of intent to the Russians of repucussions if they invade. This stuff was going on long before sites like this were around to report it in the public domain. Severn was also on patrol as the Vice-Admiral Kulakov sailed through the Channel. He told officials the UK stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the Baltic state a Nato ally. Some showed messages saying:'Be afraid and expect the worst.'. They are believed to be somewhere around Yemen at the moment. Wallace should put his bloody foot down, overule objections and get an off the shelf system fitted PDQ. (apologies for the convoluted English there!). The warship is feared to be loaded with 7,000mph hypersonic missiles with a range of over 600 miles. Dictators will at any cost hold onto power. Or Major joining Carlisle, Osbornes 8 or so jobs, Miliband joining that charity or Blair on his 1M a year+ all for following the US line? I certainly do! Nuclear centrifuge assembly plants. looking at the satellite images of the Rusian camps near the boarder. An interesting question is how much does Kremlin insider Klyushin being in US custody have to do with the escalation? The explosion inside an oxygen factory in the town of Bandar-e Mahshahr, south of Tehran. REUTERS/Sergey Smolentsev. If you remember in WW2 GERMANY wanted to invade us, and we used means of blow up tanks etc to deter them. I think itRead more , Hi Dave ,knife through Butter with todays build of warships we can but dream a larger build of Destroyer with 6in either single or twin fully Auto good fire control radar no need for the old 274/75 sights or LAS just ops Rm fire controller and PWO but alas smaller ships and bores seem too be the way fwd with The MOD. I have little faith when the top brass commit to building frigates that have no ASW or AsUW capabilities. This was to determine if the resurrected Blake and Tiger would stand a chance against the Belgrano, if they actually faced off. Itll make Snatch Landrover fiasco look trivial. Rocks?' Its a gap that worries the ranks the most! It is a show of force and plans for a possible invasion. The SPEAR seems limited against a target like a ship. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday before holding talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in Geneva on Friday in the latest attempt to defuse the crisis. But they need to be postured in way that showed the West meant business. Mind you cant complain about my pension, thank God for SERPS. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Thought about those beasties Johnathan if they hadnt been converted to Helicopter carriers as such and kept the Aft turrets as well nice broadside those cordites were huge, No worries. Iran if anything will be taking the opportunity to cause issues whilst US attention is firmly off the region. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. You underestimate the Russian bear at your peril! Hi Robert. Can you see hot winded Macron or blustering Boris doing that? Did he deserve any sympathy? . 11:10 GMT 19 Jan 2022 Trump was an idiot and poor president. If Russia did invade the Ukraine, could/would the UK and France deny Russia access through the channel? Russia plans to deploy KALIBR capability on all new design construction nuclear and non-nuclear submarines, corvettes, frigates, and larger surface ships. Without listing specific equipment plans General Carter hinted long-range precision rockets, air defence missiles and surveillance drones would be brought into service. one area that peeves me is that we no longer have the facilities to build produce the equipment fast enough. Lithuanian Defence Minister Arvydas Anusauskas said today: 'In the current situation, we view the arrival of Russian armed forces in Belarus not only as a destabilising factor in the security situation but also as the one posing an even bigger direct threat to Lithuania.'. Thanks for correction but my point was that in the UK he is of DEFENCE not DEFENSE-just trying to hold the line for Oxford English. the Poles keep shtum about their involvement, unlike the Balts who declare it openly. Moscow could launch an attack on Ukraine from Crimea and seize territory up to the Dnieper River that could serve as a natural barrier against any Ukrainian counter-offensive, said Konrad Muzyka, director of the Poland-based Rochan consultancy. It depends on the severity of what Russia will do if it invades. And the Russian surface fleet is still very much made up of 80s tech, that isnt very reliable. However, it does look like everybody is going to fight back. Try it too often, find work elsewhere. We have historically supported the underdog in the face of the invading bully. The guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been. "The U.S. Coast Guard is currently monitoring the Russian . We printed something like 45 billion sterling to deal with the pandemic yet fail to commit to proper spending to save our own planet. "Even with the pressures of Covid, we remain at short notice to respond to threats both in home waters and around the world. The Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships around the UK in the last two weeks alone - as Vladimir Putin increases his military presence in British waters.